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![]() Catholica commentator, Kerry Gonzales, and myself, Brian Coyne, editor, were the two invited to stir up a good discussion at the Sutherland Shire Spirituality in the Pub meeting on Wednesday night. Our addresses certainly seemed to fire up a vigorous discussion on the relevance, or factual truth, of various parts of the Creed today and on wider related issues of how the institution seems incapable of responding to the questions many educated people have today on fundamental questions to do with our beliefs as Christians and Catholics. We reproduce here the discussion-starter addresses each of us gave which stirred up the very interesting and positive discussion. A discussion on attitudes towards the Creed... Unfortunately my recorder cut out just before the final paragraph of Kerry's address where she outlined the sort of Creed she could subscribe to. The full text of her address is now available as a pdf document HERE. (There is also some background noise coming from a function in the room next to ours that comes though on the tape from time to time.) Kerry Gonzales... If the three media players are not visible on this page you can download the audio files from the links given at the end of this page. Brian Coyne's views on the importance of the Creed have changed significantly over the last couple of decades. In his address he traced some of the key turning points which have led him to the position of seeing the message of Jesus primarily not as some "Credal" set of beliefs but as a way of behaving — we human beings are not engaged in some game of trying to prove we know some Creed better than everyone else, Jesus primarily calls each of us into a "Way of thinking and acting" — a way of responding to the challenges and uncertainties of life. Making the correct moral judgments in the often vexed and far from morally clear choices we face in our journey through life. Jesus models for us how to think and act as the pathway to ourselves "becoming like God" to borrow the words of St Gregory of Nyssa. Brian Coyne (with an introduction by Kevin Grant)...
The conclusion to Brian Coyne's address... The beauty of these SIP gatherings is that they are like a slightly expanded version of the conversations many of us have in the privacy of our own homes these days. People do have a sense of freedom to speak from the heart and express their truthful feelings about various aspects of Church teaching and their own beliefs. There was certainly a very positive discussion generated on Wednesday night. Let us hope we can stimulate a similar discussion in cyberspace. What are your views: do you believe we need a new creed; are you happy with all the beliefs you are asked to subscribe to in the existing Creed; do you believe parts of it are out of date because of advances in our knowledge; do you perhaps believe too much emphasis is placed on the Creed and the real point of believing should have its emphasis in other places? ![]() Links to Audio files (right click and save to your hard disk): ©2009 Kerry Gonzales and Brian Coyne |

















