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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B (Y-not question the Sunday Readings)

by CathyT @, Adelaide, South Australia, Saturday, September 08, 2012, 02:43 (285 days ago)

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Twenty-third Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year B

9th. September 2012

Isaiah 35:4-7a
Psalm 146:7,8-9,9-10
James 2:1-5
Mark 7:31-37


Again Jesus left the district of Tyre
and went by way of Sidon to the Sea of Galilee,
into the district of the Decapolis.
And people brought to him a deaf man who had a speech impediment
and begged him to lay his hand on him.
He took him off by himself away from the crowd.
He put his finger into the man's ears
and, spitting, touched his tongue;
then he looked up to heaven and groaned, and said to him,
"Ephphatha!"-- that is, "Be opened!" --
And immediately the man's ears were opened,
his speech impediment was removed,
and he spoke plainly.
He ordered them not to tell anyone.
But the more he ordered them not to,
the more they proclaimed it.
They were exceedingly astonished and they said,
"He has done all things well.
He makes the deaf hear and the mute speak."

My brother-in-law is coming up to his sixtieth birthday, and to celebrate, he and my sister will be holding an “Open House” in a few weeks’ time. The invitation, though, is one of those that asks us not to bring a gift, and I'm never quite sure about that. While in one way I rather like this idea of “let your presence be your present”, it also makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. Somehow it seems to go against some basic instinct not to bring a present for a person whose birthday celebration you are attending; it just doesn't seem right!

There’s also an element of something feeling “not quite right” in this Sunday’s Gospel passage. At one level, it can be seen as yet another of Jesus’ compassionate healings, this time with the added symbolic meaning of one’s ears being opened to hear the Good News, and one’s mouth being freed up so that you can spread the news. Yet, the strange thing is that Jesus forbids them to tell anyone about it. This command of Jesus occurs quite frequently in the Gospels, especially the one written by the evangelist who has traditionally been known as Mark. Yet why would Jesus do this? You might think, for a start, that he would want everyone to know about what he was doing – not for his own sake, but in order to bring people to God. In any case, he must have known that neither his disciples nor any witnesses to the healing – least of all the beneficiary of his actions – were going to keep quiet about something they must have been bursting to talk about! You would also think that Jesus would know from past experience the futility of making such a prohibition.

Of course there has been much discussion among scholars and other biblical commentators about this "messianic secret", as it is often called, and I did a quick search to canvass some of these views. One of the more interesting is that put forward by James Patrick Holding, in his "Tektonics" website:
http://www.tektonics.org/qt/secretmess.html
(not a website I would normally set much store by, but this article is interesting, the cartoon version even more so!)
According to Holding, Jesus command to secrecy has to be seen in the context of the culture of the time. An important concept in Jesus’ world – and I believe in Middle Eastern culture still – is that of “honour”. If the disciples went round spreading Jesus’ fame, and Jesus was perceived to be encouraging them in this, other men would see him as taking away their "honour".That is, by promoting his own importance, he would be diminishing theirs. But as long as he publicly forbade his disciples to talk about his great deeds, the demands of honour were met, and it didn’t matter whether or not they actually DID tell everyone about it. This seems to make sense and it also fits in with my understanding of the social milieu of Jesus. Still, I can’t help feeling there is something deeper and more significant here than just a social convention. This is particularly evident if you compare this incident with one of Jesus’ earlier healings, that of the paralytic man who was lowered through the roof. (Mark 2:3-12). Jesus shows no inclination to hide his light under a bushel here; in fact, he causes a stir by taking on himself something which his contemporaries believe is the prerogative of God, that is, forgiving sins. He is vindicated in this by his ability to bring about physical healing.

So, what is behind the secrecy? I am reminded of a book I read many years ago, Being and the Messiah by the liberation theologian, Jose Porfirio Miranda. This book is primarily about the Gospel of John, but it has relevance here as well. In Miranda’s view, the reason why Jesus begs for secrecy is because he knows that his healings and other “good works” will be seen by his enemies as a threat to them, and so will spur them on to bring about his downfall. Miranda’s thesis particularly came to mind when I was reading this week's text because of a strange part of the passage, which surprisingly most commentators seem to ignore. That is the bit where we are told that, before healing the man, Jesus “groaned”. In the version of the Bible that I usually use, the New Revised Standard Version, this word is translated as “sighed”. Not quite as strong, but you would still have to wonder, why is Jesus reacting like this? In an even more dramatic context, in the raising of Lazarus in John’s Gospel, we are told that Jesus was “greatly disturbed”, and even that he wept. This has most often been interpreted as showing Jesus’ great love for Lazarus and his sisters. But according to Miranda, a much more accurate way to translate Jesus’ reaction is to say that he “was shaking with anger”. And why? Because he knew that such clear-cut proof that he really was from and of God would definitely get his enemies going and would soon lead to his death.

To return to Mark’s Gospel: it is not long after this healing of a deaf man that Jesus specifically reveals himself as the Messiah, and after that he begins to foretell his suffering and death. Mark seems to be revealing the process whereby Jesus comes to a clearer understanding of who he is and why he is here, an understanding of himself as the Messiah, but a suffering Messiah.

I think there is one aspect to this that should not be overlooked, although it often is. It is not as though Jesus is “playing God” by going around getting people to worship him and making them all do what he wants. He shows he is genuinely from God by healing, by bringing people hope and enabling them to genuinely experience God’s love. Surely he should be praised for that? Why would anyone, least of all those who supposedly represent God and best understand God's word, see Jesus as a threat and even accuse him of blasphemy? The important point here, I think, is that God is most authentically revealed to us in ways that ordinary people can spontaneously and naturally recognise as being “good news”. This is not always “good news” for those in positions of religious power, since it’s easier to control people and to reinforce one’s own power if you have a system which emphasises obedience to authority and unquestioning acceptance of the rules and traditions. Of course, Jesus was not preaching an anarchic, "feel-good" kind of religion which disregarded all the values and moral guide-lines of his faith tradition. However, by enabling people to genuinely encounter God, he was empowering them to open their hearts to God's love and this love would then become the wellspring from which their whole lives flowed. Inevitably, this showed by way of contrast the shallowness, hypocrisy and loveless legalism displayed by many of the religious leaders of his day. No wonder they found his healings threatening!

Getting back to my brother-in-law’s birthday: what is the response of a love-filled heart to a “bring-no-presents” invitation? Well, if God loves and values us so intensely, as Jesus proved that God does, then maybe it is underestimating our worth to think that we need to bring a material gift. Maybe, if someone says that “our presence is the present”, then we should take their word for it. I always like getting actual presents for my birthday though! :-)


Cathy Taggart

I splash in my poetry puddle
and try to keep God amused. - James Broughton

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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B

by georgeh @, Saturday, September 08, 2012, 15:02 (284 days ago) @ CathyT

Thanks for that CathyT.
Perhaps Jesus didn't wish to become popular as a physical healer.That's one reason to keep the secret?! He came after all as a spiritual one?!
He did perform the physical miracles to establish his credibility as a spiritual leader, I feel.But naturally people want physical healing primarily.
He was trying to open the spiritual, hearts, ears and eyes more than the physical ones?!
Just trying to discern.
georgeh

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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B

by Jerome @, Saturday, September 08, 2012, 22:38 (284 days ago) @ CathyT

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Cathy, thank you for your insights.
The saying you used; “let your presence be your present” to me is very relevant.

I learnt today that this miracle story only appears in Mark’s gospel.
Mark must have had a specific purpose to include it.
Was he emphasising that perhaps the disciples had not yet understood what Jesus was really on about?
Was he suggesting that the disciples had not yet heard the real message?
Is that why he wrote that Jesus told them not to spread the story of ‘miracles’? - Because that was a misunderstanding of the real message?

When we apply that message to our world it would seem to be very pointedly relevant and accurate.
Are our ears open to the real message?
And if they are, are our tongues loosened to proclaim that message?
Whatever the distractions might be, it seems rather obvious that today real people have been silenced and do not speak.
Incredibly enough it is the often extremist ‘twitterers’ who are listened to and quoted by the media. If a view isn’t extreme it is boring and not worth reporting. It kills ratings and readership.
We need to be courageous and gutsy to regain the power of speech and proclaim the answers that Jesus teaches us to attain the ‘reign of God’, to strive for a world that is characterised by fairness, justice, compassion and selflessness.
Do we spend our Christian lives staying voluntarily deaf and dumb?
And yet we do know that Christ’s message is such ‘Good News’ that we should all be wanting to tell it enthusiastically.
Do we suffer from deliberate selective deafness and dumbness?
My gut feeling is that this is probably true, although I recognise that we are faced with incredible hurdles and obstacles that are put in place by the massive distractions presented by modern media and culture, but also by the incredibly conservative ‘voice of Church authority’.
It seems to me that modern religious thinking and insight is continually being severely discouraged.
In the olden days we learnt the catechism off by heart.
After high school there just seemed to be nothing else to be learnt as far as religion was concerned.
Many of our adult Catholics seem to be stuck at that stage of religious thinking.
They may not realise it but they have become deaf!
And, being deaf, they cannot speak either.
They have nothing to say, nothing to share.
They may be highly qualified in their secular profession but are basically illiterate in their faith.

Catholica has alerted me to spend more time listening and absorbing.
Unfortunately I am not too skilled at sharing the nitty gritty of the ‘Good News’.
And sometimes it is not easy to separate the distracting noise from the constructive insights.
But if we really ‘hear’ Christ then we have to act on it.

"All happenings, great and small, are parables whereby God speaks. The art of life is to get the message."
- Malcolm Muggeridge

A Prayer for the World
Let the rain come and wash away
the ancient grudges, the bitter hatreds
held and nurtured over generations.
Let the rain wash away the memory
of the hurt, the neglect.
Then let the sun come out and
fill the sky with rainbows.
Let the warmth of the sun heal us
wherever we are broken.
Let it burn away the fog so that
we can see each other clearly.
So that we can see beyond labels,
beyond accents, gender or skin color.
Let the warmth and brightness
of the sun melt our selfishness.
So that we can share the joys and
feel the sorrows of our neighbors.
And let the light of the sun
be so strong that we will see all
people as our neighbors.
Let the earth, nourished by rain,
bring forth flowers
to surround us with beauty.
And let the mountains teach our hearts
to reach upward to heaven.
Amen.

—Rabbi Harold S. Kushner
(Author of When Bad Things Happen to Good People)

I read somewhere that the amount of space in the Gospels devoted to the hurt or poor when compared to any other issue we might be interested in, suggests that the sick and needy are more important than any other reality.

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"Where am I in the story?" A Reflection from Fr Brian Gleeson CP

by Brian Coyne ⌂ @, LINDEN, NSW, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 07:25 (283 days ago) @ CathyT

Fr Brian Gleeson sent through this commentary on today's readings...

Every time we find ourselves listening to the stories of God at Mass, we need to ask ourselves two questions:
1. Where am I in the story?
2. Where are we in the story?
Let's apply that now to the story we hear today about the healing by Jesus of a handicapped man, handicapped by being both deaf and dumb.

Our first response to this story might be: 'Well, I'm not deaf, and I'm not dumb. I'm not handicapped. Or if I am, not much! So what's the story got to do with me?' The fact is, we've all got limitations, we've all got handicaps, and we've all got wounds. Just because ours are not as visible and as obvious as that of the man in the gospels, doesn't make them any less real.

In one way or another we are all wounded and hurting. We see this in husbands who take refuge in work because they are no longer attracted to their wives. We see it in wives who are wounded by lack of attention and affection from their husbands. We see it in parents who are fighting and arguing with their children. We see it in children who are not getting the love they need, or who are feeling smothered by over-possessive parents.

Some people carry deep wounds from bad experiences as a child. Others are wounded by sickness, or by the death of a loved one. Some are wounded by the infidelity of their partner, or by not being able to accept themselves as they are. Some are wounded by failures at work or in relationships. Others are wounded by being unable to forgive or forget. Some are wounded by being rejected by someone they love.

Some of us are more wounded than others. But the deepest wounds are those not visible to the eye. Inside each of us there might be a whole hidden world of suffering.

With some people their inner wounds have driven them to drugs, drink, depression or pornography, or a combination of all four. In others their inner wounds have led to a compulsion to prove themselves, to be successful, to win, to dominate, to show off, and even perhaps to an obsession with helping and saving others, a kind of messiah complex.

On the road to healing, the first step is to own that we really are wounded and hurting. Counselling with a caring counsellor or even deep conversations with a trusted friend, may help us find the source of our frustration and put us on the road to recovery.

But no matter what our wounds are, what needs healing most of all is our heart, our mental and emotional outlook. If only our heart could change we could move on and give so much more to our relationships. But as a result of particular painful experiences, the heart is often left empty, cold and unwelcoming, hard and unyielding, and weighed down with worry and anxiety. Maybe we even find ourselves suffering from a broken heart?

We should not be surprised by any of this. It means that we are human beings, who have hearts of flesh, not hearts of stone. Just the same, our wounded hearts ache to be relieved and healed, so that we can find freedom and deliverance, love and peace, joy and contentment.

This miracle Jesus did on that deaf and dumb man reminds us that hearing is a precious gift. But it is only with the heart, a heart like the heart of Jesus, that we can hear what is hurting others most of all. The cry of someone in need may reach our ears, but if it does not touch our heart we will not feel that person's pain, and we will not do anything about it. The miracle that Jesus worked reminds us that the gift of speech is a precious gift. But if we do not speak our words from the heart, they will be empty, hollow, and a waste of time.

In touching the ears and tongue of that handicapped sufferer, Jesus also touched his wounded heart. More than anything else it was that touch which made him a different person, a new man in fact. That was the real miracle. It's the same for us. For the healing of our wounded, damaged or broken hearts, we must look to Jesus. And we must be ready to look to other human beings, persons who can and will put us together again, who can and will put us on the road to recovery. In this great work, we can experience them as agents of Jesus, the greatest and best healer ever, of wounded, handicapped, and broken people.


Brian's commentaries on Catholica can be found at:
www.catholica.com.au/gc0/bg/index.php


[image]Brian Coyne
[Editor & Publisher]

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"Where am I in the story?" A Reflection from Fr Brian Gleeson CP

by BarryS ⌂ @, 'Uralla, NSW', Sunday, September 09, 2012, 10:28 (283 days ago) @ Brian Coyne

This is an excellent view of this bible article. It is so much about the kind of church I have been involved with.

BarryS


I live for those that love me
For those that know I am true
For the heaven that smiles above me
& awaits my coming too
For the cause that needs assistance
For the wrong that needs resistance
For the future in the distance
& the good that I can do.

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Existential suffering...

by Brian Coyne ⌂ @, LINDEN, NSW, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 17:06 (283 days ago) @ Brian Coyne

Thanks, Brian, for this commentary. I've been mulling on it most of the day. It led me to thinking of the universal suffering that I am sure almost all human beings endure. There are a few lucky ones who don't I suspect. I'm led to ask: is one of the great attractions of Jesus Christ that (a) he somehow embodies the universal or existential suffering of humanity? I'm not even thinking of that in a particularly religious or theological sense in the way the church talks about in some of its theologies.

Patrick White had a line in one of his novels that ran "only the unborn soul is whole, pure; from the moment we are born we start to degenerate". The hunger cries of a new born child must be one of our first experiences of suffering or pain. Somebody – I think it was Tom McMahon – wrote on Catholica recently how we "remember" the earliest pains we suffer as infants. We don't necessarily remember them at the level of our surface consciousness but there seems to be a deeper memory. From the moment we are born we are "remembering" our pains — and also building up defense mechanisms, some of them good, that prevent us figuratively "going near the cliff" where we experienced past anxiety or pain. It is "good" in the sense that this protects us from placing ourselves in positions of danger. Like most things in life there is also a negative side to it as well. Some of us, perhaps all of us at various levels, become overly cautious and even petrified? I wonder if the great exhortation of Jesus, "Be Not Afraid", is a caution against this negative side of insecurity, anxiety, pain and suffering? Fear and anxiety — which essentially is not actual pain but the anticipation of pain and suffering dragged up from our memories. We are "fearful" or "anxious" of getting ourselves into situations where we "remember" where we experienced real pain at some earlier point in our lives — perhaps even, as I think it was Tom suggested, "pain" that we cannot even accurately, or consciously, remember?

Fear and anxiety can "suck the life" out of us sometimes even more effectively than real pain and suffering. (b) Is part of the attraction of Jesus Christ to so many down through the millenia some deep recognition in many that he shows a pathway through this condition? I suspect the experience of fear might be near universal. There are some people with various mental conditions who might not experience the normal protections that save them from pain. I also suspect it might be one of the real "tests of sainthood" — people who have successfully navigated what I think might be one of the "last great mountains" we have to climb in our lives — transcending our anxieties, fears and insecurities.

Life is full of paradoxes. One big one I think was the mantra of the late JPII where he adopted those words of Jesus "Be Not Afraid" as one of his slogans. The more I look at it JPII was, like many bullies, a terribly fearful person. It's all disguised of course in this "bravado" that bullies put on constantly trying to prove that they are the very opposite of fearful people. I wonder seriously if what is the underlying cause of the crisis (multiple crises) that institutional Catholicism is in today basically stems from fear and anxiety? This is what has created this "curious coalition" of the boys who are afraid to let go of the apron strings and earn the disapproval of their mothers, and the bully boys, who are constantly running around trying to demonstrate how "unafraid" they are by adopting these "macho masks" to demonstrate how tough they are?

At a personal level I find myself meditating on my own fear of authority figures. I have been seriously hurt in my life by various authority figures that I once trusted, or was brought up to trust (and fear). Out of that I have found myself wondering if society as a whole is going through some major distrust of "authority figures"? Look, for instance, at the constant discussion in the media these days about how we are "losing faith" in our political leaders. Their approval ratings, not just in Australia, but around the world are at a low ebb in society. The massive "exit out of the pews" across the educated world – does that not represent a massive "loss of faith" in our ecclesial and spiritual leaders?

Thanks to all of you for the insightful reflections on this "difficult" Sunday reading. On the "urging to secrecy" aspect I wonder if this might be linked in some way to Christ's advice in other places to not skite about our praying and good works, and was not so much linked to his "fear" of what any authorities might do to him were they to find out about the "authority" he might have been draining away from them?


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Existential suffering...

by MarieV, Australia, Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 09:32 (281 days ago) @ Brian Coyne

Brian wrote:
The more I look at it JPII was, like many bullies, a terribly fearful person. It's all disguised of course in this "bravado" that bullies put on constantly trying to prove that they are the very opposite of fearful people. I wonder seriously if what is the underlying cause of the crisis (multiple crises) that institutional Catholicism is in today basically stems from fear and anxiety?

The basic premise of Attitudinal Healing is that we act out of fear or we act out of love.
I have often said that an explanation for the behaviour of those at the top in Rome and elsewhere is that they are acting out of fear.....perhaps fear of losing the sheep they saw as their responsibility. I was told I was being too generous and kind in my judgement.
Many of their words may be of love but much more their actions seem to be out of fear.

Thank you to all who have commented on this Gospel passage, much food for thought.

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"Where am I in the story?" A Reflection from Fr Brian Gleeson CP

by Alphonse, Pakistan, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 18:10 (283 days ago) @ Brian Coyne

Brian,Thank you very much for such a wonderful and existential application of Sunday reading.I like it.It is touching, inviting and inspiring way of interpreting the Gospel reading.

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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B

by Sue, Sydney, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 10:34 (283 days ago) @ CathyT

Thanks for your thoughtful reflection, Cathy.  You raise an interesting point when you say,

'There’s also an element of something feeling “not quite right” in this Sunday’s Gospel passage. At one level, it can be seen as yet another of Jesus’ compassionate healings, this time with the added symbolic meaning of one’s ears being opened to hear the Good News, and one’s mouth being freed up so that you can spread the news. Yet, the strange thing is that Jesus forbids them to tell anyone about it.' 

There is something odd about this, isn't there? Why the call for secrecy, that is given so frequently in the context of miracles?

I enjoyed your  exploring the scholarly views on this 'messianic secret', especially putting it in the context of the culture at the time, and value of a man's honour.  But you add,

'Still, I can’t help feeling there is something deeper and more significant here than just a social convention.'

And I agree. You go on to explore what could be other reasons for Jesus' secrecy, drawing attention to what seem to be Jesus' negative reactions to requests for healings.  That too is puzzling, but actually not evident in this healing of the deaf man.  Jesus simply takes him away from the crowd.  In that intimate, face to face encounter that follows, the man is cured.  His ears are opened,  his speech can flow freely.

In autobiographical stories of women's spiritual journeys, one important moment is often the encounter with a spiritual teacher.  Sometimes there is an immediate and unreserved recognition that this is the one they have been looking for, this is the person who can lead them out of the darkness of spiritual confusion and ignorance into the sunlight of spiritual knowledge, whether that is called union with God, enlightenment, or simply liberation from spiritual ignorance.  And the writers of these stories are just ordinary women, wives and mothers, single woman, all ages, who have been wrestling with the Big Questions about God and the meaning of life.

Now, I suspect that this is what happened to the man who was deaf.  In that intimate encounter with Jesus, his ears were opened, but he was cured not so much of physical deafness as of spiritual deafness.

Among the people who listened to Jesus, few 'had ears to hear', a phrase the Gospel writers seem to repeat. Few people could hear beyond the surface meaning of his words.

The deaf man however, when alone with Jesus, glimpsed within him the presence of a mystery beyond name and form and was  drawn into its territory. That contact with Jesus drew him into what might be called the God space - the Kingdom of God. A place where all  fears and worries fall away.  A place of love and light.  Now he 'knew', now he could 'hear' through the surface of Jesus' words.  And that knowing was an experiential knowing, a mystical experience, which is 'secret' only because no words can adequately express it.  For me, this was the 'messianic secret', a secret which cannot be uncovered by scholarly wondering, but only through experience.

Nevertheless Cathy, we end up in the same place, you and I.  As you say,

 'However, by enabling people to genuinely encounter God, he was empowering them to open their hearts to God's love and this love would then become the wellspring from which their whole lives flowed.'

Sue

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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B

by Alphonse, Pakistan, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 18:02 (283 days ago) @ Sue

Sue,Cathy has given very good reasons that Jesus's good works wll be seen by his enemies as a threat to them and will bring down their personal honour before others.As a result they will create problems for Jesus.Hence,Jesus forbade them not to share with others.The other very important reason for that was that Jesus did not want to become famous as healer.He did not want people to look for him to heal their sick.He wanted people to take his good works as a signes of the kingdom of God present among them.He healed people to lead them to self awareness and to recognize the healing power of their faith hidden in their own self.He always said,Let it be done according to your faith.

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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B

by Sue, Sydney, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 20:40 (283 days ago) @ Alphonse

Alphonse, you are quite right that Cathy has given good reasons for Jesus wanting to maintain secrecy. This fits very well with an interpretation of scripture that understands the healing of the deaf man as a physical healing.

On the other hand, there are some, like myself, who have difficulty accepting this as an account of a physical healing, so see the story as an invitation to wonder if there is not a deeper, metaphoric meaning, one that embraces the idea of a spiritual healing, ie a healing of spiritual deafness to the message of Jesus.

In the end it probably does not matter which interpretation is preferred. They sit together in harmony and both make the same point.

Sue

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Why the secrecy? Sunday readings 23rd B

by Maitland, Australia, Sunday, September 09, 2012, 13:02 (283 days ago) @ CathyT

Wow !! Thanks CathyT,georgeh,Jerome,Brian and Brian

There is much on Catholica ( particularly James and Enda's posts )that challenges me to think.However these wonderful weekly Gospel reflections prompt me to try and shut up and listen on another level.

My initial reflection was to think (like the earlier healing of the paralytic refrred to by CathyT ) that this scenario couldn't have even taken place without some friends bringing the deaf mute along.Disability in Jesus' time was seen as a punishment from God and sufferers were pushed to the margins if not excluded from society.And yet this man had friends who brought him to Jesus.

How close are we to the marginalised of our communities ?

I found the commentary by Peter Feldmeier in " America" quite useful on the issue of secrecy:



"We see this scenario repeated, especially in Mark’s Gospel. Scholars have called this Mark’s messianic secret. Numerous speculations are offered to explain this oddity. One explanation is that Jesus did not want to be confused with a political messiah, which was surely the expectation of some. In contrast, “the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and give his life as a ransom for many” (10:45).

Another explanation is that Jesus was intent on proclaiming the kingdom of God; it was about the kingdom, not about him.

Or perhaps the secret works like a narrative irony that shows the message simply could not be kept down. Mark, in fact, tells his Gospel with a style that suggests great urgency and power. The good news of Jesus and his kingdom was just exploding. A counter explanation is that this secret explains why many Jews did not end up believing in him.

I personally lean toward the first explanation, though two or even three of these could be true at the same time."

However I also think there is something in georgeh's point that people primarily wanted physical healing rather than spiritual healing.

Just because we have the ability to hear doesn't mean we actually listen or listen well enough to even appraoch something like understanding.

This passage isn't even half way through Mark's gospel.There have been numerous healings,driving out of evil spirits etc but the number of these episodes start to drop off. Jesus's message of the reign of God still lies elsewhere.Yet those who have been closest to Jesus still don't understand.

As both Jerome and Brian Gleeson so clearly elaborate, life and our encounter with God is so much more than good health and "good standing" in the community.

What could be more inspiring (and humbling ) and provide more insight into the beauty of existence than the performances ( and the life journeys ) of so many of the competitors at the Paralympics.

How open are we to listening to the voices of the most marginalised in a our community ?

There was another challenging passage in Peter Felmeier's commentary which I think resonates with some recent discussions of Catholica :

"The messianic secret can be alive and well in our lives. While some religious people may be more generous and moral than nonreligious folk, most are not dramatically so. The sociologist Christian Smith argues that most religious people in effect live a faith he calls “moral therapeutic deism.” It boils down to this: God wants them to be happy and modestly moral; God makes few demands on them; God promises heaven to anyone who is not egregiously evil; and God is not imagined to be actively part of a person’s everyday life. Religious skeptics rightly ask: What real difference in your life does being a Christian make? "

Cathy lastly - if your brother in law enjoys good wine and has some half decent cellaring conditions - bring him a bottle of good Coonawarra red and tell him its for his 70th.

Maitland

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On this question of secrecy and silence...

by Brian Coyne ⌂ @, LINDEN, NSW, Monday, September 10, 2012, 00:07 (283 days ago) @ CathyT

Down the forum a little way in response to Herbie on another subject I have drawn attention to a series of lectures given at Edinburgh University in April this year by Professor of Church History at Oxford, Diarmaid MacCulloch that intersects fairly directly with the question of silence and secrecy in scripture. Professor MacCulloch has recently been receiving significantly good reviews about this 1100+ page book "Christianity: the First 3000 years". This book was also turned into a television series that has been screened on the BBC (but not yet, as far as I know, in Australia). I did upload to the page in the marketplace on his book [LINK], which I have updated today (and pleased to learn the book is available on Kindle for just $9.99 so I've purchased it myself), a short 3 minute video where he provides an explanation of this work and this present series from Edinburgh University. I'll repeat that short video here:

Here's the link to my response to Herbie where you can also watch the first one hour lecture from Diarmaid MacCulloch:
http://www.catholica.com.au/forum/index.php?id=112238


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We're all in the picture

by CathyT @, Adelaide, South Australia, Monday, September 10, 2012, 15:31 (282 days ago) @ CathyT

Thank you everyone for your responses and your varied interpretations of this week's Gospel story. Most passages in the Bible, and especially in the Gospels, can be seen on different levels: the physical and the spiritual, the literal and the symbolic, the "big picture" and the individual applications, and maybe others as well. To borrow a phrase from Fr Gleeson, we all fit in the story, which wouldn't be possible if we had to accept a "one size fits all" interpretation of the texts! So thank you again for the smorgasbord of viewpoints we always get in the "Y-not question the Sunday Readings" thread.


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