The "emergent church": is it a reality? (Main Forum)
Angela, Tom Roberts from NCR wrote a series called "The Emergent Church". It has recently been released as a book "The Emerging Catholic Church" and he sent me a copy a few days ago which I've begun reading and now handed over to Milly to write a review. In a way it is similar to our "exit stories" or the series run in America Magazine. This may be what your daughter is referring to.
Personally I think the institution is now kaput. We're watching the formation of "an irrelevant remnant" largely peopled by those who get their rocks off on certain styles of liturgy, language and rubric, or who work themselves up into knots about rules and authority figures. I don't have a sense that there will be "an emergent church" in the sense that Tom Roberts envisages. If anything those feelings were reinforced by attending the American Catholic Council. Those who were excited and motivated by Vatican II — who might have been the nucleus for "an emergent church" — are now aged or ageing and the call was simply not passed on to our children. The new generations basically see most of their parents as mad for still persisting. (There are always exceptions of course to these generalisations.) The information published today of what is happening in Brazil only reinforces this general picture. My sense is if there is such an animal as "an emergent church" it's still a long way into the future and its shape will be discerned and formed by generations which are probably not even born yet. As pessimistic as it might seem, I think we're witnessing the final collapse of the Holy Roman Empire. It's collapsing just as the Middle Ages eventually gave way to the Enlightenment and the modern age; collapsing like the old Ancien Regime, feudalism, even the totalitarian empires of Nazism and Communism.
We'll try and get the review of Tom Robert's book done in the next week and publish it. I've uploaded information about the book to the Amazon pages of the Marketplace:
http://www.catholica.com.au/marketplace/amazon/1570759464.php
It is also available from Fishpond:
http://www.fishpond.com.au/product_info.php?ref=1368&id=9781570759468
or
http://www.fishpond.co.nz/product_info.php?ref=1556&id=9781570759468
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Brian Coyne
[Editor & Publisher]
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- The discussion on "emerging church" or church in "terminal decline"... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-24, 11:51
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- Doing some motherly homework - Angela, 2011-10-22, 18:00
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- Do know if this will help...but is a try ;) - Roy, 2011-10-22, 18:58
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- The "emergent church": is it a reality? - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-22, 20:39
- Fr Richard Rohr on the emerging church - Dolores, 2011-10-23, 02:31
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- Two contrasting views of "the emerging church".... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-23, 08:44
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- I have just read your post, Angela, and am sure all the information will help. - Bill Dowsley, 2011-10-23, 14:57
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- I have just read your post, Angela, and am sure all the information will help. - Bill Dowsley, 2011-10-23, 14:57
- Two contrasting views of "the emerging church".... - Dolores, 2011-10-23, 14:54
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- Two contrasting views of "the emerging church".... - BarryS, 2011-10-23, 15:05
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- Thank you all so very very much - Angela, 2011-10-23, 20:19
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- Thank you all so very very much - Angela, 2011-10-23, 20:19
- An institution reduced to effective silence on key issues people would like discussed.... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-24, 03:04
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- Is it just trying to do too much? - Dolores, 2011-10-24, 04:16
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- A Godincidence if ever there was one ! - Angela, 2011-10-24, 06:31
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- Thank you for your "wakeup call". - ray(O), 2011-10-24, 11:10
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- Thank you for your "wakeup call". - Angela, 2011-10-24, 11:28
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- Thank you for your "wakeup call". - Angela, 2011-10-24, 11:28
- Thank you for your "wakeup call". - ray(O), 2011-10-24, 11:10
- A Godincidence if ever there was one ! - Angela, 2011-10-24, 06:31
- An institution reduced to effective silence on key issues people would like discussed.... - flagrantheretic, 2011-10-25, 11:11
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- An institution reduced to effective silence on key issues people would like discussed.... - Jerome, 2011-10-25, 21:33
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- An institution reduced to effective silence on key issues people would like discussed.... - Jerome, 2011-10-25, 21:33
- Is it just trying to do too much? - Dolores, 2011-10-24, 04:16
- Two contrasting views of "the emerging church".... - BarryS, 2011-10-23, 15:05
- A further thought — Michael Dowd's "Evolutionary Christianity" series.... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-23, 09:27
- Fr Richard Rohr on the emerging church - Journeyman, 2011-10-24, 13:34
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- Fr Richard Rohr on the emerging church - Journeyman, 2011-10-24, 14:03
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- Fr Richard Rohr on the emerging church - Journeyman, 2011-10-24, 14:03
- Two contrasting views of "the emerging church".... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-23, 08:44
- Do know if this will help...but is a try ;) - Roy, 2011-10-22, 18:58
- A discussion with Bob Kaiser and Tom McMahon on this "emergent church" business.... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 01:23
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- Further response to Kaiser... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 02:12
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- Like its 1699 - Angela, 2011-10-25, 06:38
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- "Like its 1699" not a misprint.. - Angela, 2011-10-25, 16:37
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- "Like its 1699" not a misprint.. - Milly, 2011-10-25, 23:20
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- "Like its 1699" - sorry, I don't get it. - CathyT, 2011-10-26, 00:41
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- "Like its 1699" - my take - Angela, 2011-10-26, 01:10
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- Edited with YouTube link - Milly, 2011-10-26, 01:33
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- "Like its 1699" - my take - Angela, 2011-10-26, 06:26
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- Thank you Angela and Milly - CathyT, 2011-10-26, 16:35
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- Thank you Angela and Milly - CathyT, 2011-10-26, 16:35
- "Like its 1699" - my take - Angela, 2011-10-26, 06:26
- Edited with YouTube link - Milly, 2011-10-26, 01:33
- "Like its 1699" - my take - Angela, 2011-10-26, 01:10
- "Like its 1699" not a misprint.. - Milly, 2011-10-25, 23:20
- "Like its 1699" not a misprint.. - Angela, 2011-10-25, 16:37
- The other scenario that's a possibility... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 09:40
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- The other scenario that's a possibility... - georgeh, 2011-10-25, 09:58
- Like its 1699 - Angela, 2011-10-25, 06:38
- "Real reform has to start in Rome"... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 13:43
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- "Real reform has to start in Rome?!!!"... - Tom Lee, 2011-10-25, 22:12
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- A few things to cheer about... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 22:27
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- A few things to cheer about... - judith, 2011-10-25, 22:57
- A few things to cheer about... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 22:27
- "Real reform has to start in Rome?!!!"... - Tom Lee, 2011-10-25, 22:12
- Further response to Kaiser... - Brian Coyne, 2011-10-25, 02:12
- Doing some motherly homework - Angela, 2011-10-22, 18:00
















