What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? (Main Forum)
I am grateful for what Brian, Vynette and others have written on the subject of afterlife and reward and judgment.
When the ruasch, that has enliven the body called Francis, is due to join, in non separateness, its Creator, I will want to know that I have lived...lived as Jesus suggests we do "to the full"...lived as in union with the God-driven evolution of this Universe...lived as fully utilizing the divine in me and the minerals that make up my body...lived in the unconditional love that is given me to share after the example of Jesus.
In my rejoining my Creator I realize that I release for recycling the 92 or 96 (?) minerals that make up my body and everything else. "My" presence in and with God will continue to be as it was during 'life',though unaware by lapse or neglect of memory.
Whatever about reward or punishment for past 'sins', failure or mistakes, I have no fear for God will not disown me. I will want to know that I have lived, having given the past away (forgiveness)and now living the fullness of life given to me. Were I to be a 'sinner' to the end of my life but then, in the 11th hour, lived in and with divine love and therefore love, I would know that I have lived my humanity and released my ruasch to God. Were I to have appeared to all to remain a 'sinner' to the actual moment of death, I would know that somehow the love of God would prevail. The protests of all who proclaim they have 'worked all day in the heat of the day' and ask why should someone like Hitler or Ossima bin Laden not be punished, I say that, as far as I am concerned, I am the only one here dreaming this existence or that God's ways are not my misguided ways.
How doctrines of heaven, hell, purgatory, reward and pnishment fit in with these my thoughts, I do not know. I do not say the doctrines are wrong. All I know they need to be examined carefuly as Vynette is trying to do for us.
Francis, who want to wake up to see he is in heaven.
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My purpose is to remember the love that created me in God one with my brothers and sisters and with all life. My function is to extend that love and unity each moment to all.
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- Richard McBrien on bishops - edited - PatrickW, 2011-05-10, 08:19
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- Bravo McBrien: THEY SHOULD ALL BE REMOVED FOR THIS OFFENCE... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-10, 11:17
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- My email to my old boss, Archbishop Barry Hickey but I also address it to all bishops... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-10, 12:31
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- An updated Parable. - desi, 2011-05-10, 12:56
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- An updated Parable. - Nick, 2011-05-11, 00:18
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 03:02
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - georgeh, 2011-05-11, 09:37
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- The "Great Silence" of Catholicism (on all the critical issues)... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 11:20
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- The "Great Silence" of Catholicism (on all the critical issues)... - georgeh, 2011-05-11, 12:06
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- The "Great Silence" of Catholicism (on all the critical issues)... - georgeh, 2011-05-11, 12:06
- The "Great Silence" of Catholicism (on all the critical issues)... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 11:20
- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - vynette, 2011-05-11, 11:09
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- Now that should get them thinking ... if not talking... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 11:36
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- Have you ever wondered... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 11:41
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- Thanks Vynette - DavidC, 2011-05-11, 12:19
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- Now that should get them thinking ... if not talking... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 11:36
- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Francis, 2011-05-11, 12:43
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - emjaybee, 2011-05-11, 13:51
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Macbee, 2011-05-11, 14:26
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- Purgatory.....some good news! - desi, 2011-05-11, 19:32
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- Purgatory.....some good news! AH but don't forget... - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-11, 19:35
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- Purgatory.....some good news! AH but don't forget... - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-11, 19:35
- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Macbee, 2011-05-11, 14:26
- "For He knoweth our frame". - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-12, 08:54
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- "For He knoweth our frame". - Francis, 2011-05-12, 15:16
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- "For He knoweth our frame". - Francis, 2011-05-12, 15:16
- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - emjaybee, 2011-05-11, 13:51
- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Francis, 2011-05-11, 13:42
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Robert, 2011-05-11, 18:37
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - desi, 2011-05-11, 18:56
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-12, 01:45
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-12, 01:45
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- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - georgeh, 2011-05-11, 09:37
- What do we actually mean by heaven, hell, purgatory and a Last Judgment? - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-11, 03:02
- An updated Parable. - Nick, 2011-05-11, 00:18
- My email to my old boss, Archbishop Barry Hickey but I also address it to all bishops... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-10, 12:31
- Bravo McBrien: THEY SHOULD ALL BE REMOVED FOR THIS OFFENCE... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-10, 11:17
















