Voting with our feet .. (Main Forum)
Hi Macbee,
I really do feel for you, and for all the others who have the Church ingrained in their psyche.
I was born into a nominally Presbyterian household. My mother had gone to a Calvinist boarding school, and was OVER religion in big way, so we never went to church. My brother and I were forcibly baptized by the local minister when he learned that we hadn't been "done" yet. He came to our home one Sunday night, when I was 10 years old, and sprinkled us there and then.
Due to complicated circumstances, I was sent to the local convent school, with instructions that I was to avoid religious classes at all costs, but of course I joined the choir, and we sang at benediction, weddings, etc. Loved that part of it, but the catechism lessons were a big turn off, so when I left there, it was with a fairly negative attitude towards the Irish, and Catholics in general.
Years past, and at university, I went on a retreat, where the priest was a smart, intelligent, good looking young Franciscan, who opened my eyes to an entirely different religion than I had known at St Leo's Convent!
I was hooked - got instruction, joined the Church, was very happy for many years, then it all came crashing down round about the time of Humanae Vitae*. It was downhill from there, and eventually, cutting out all the gory details, I stopped making myself miserable about it, and left.
That was a few years ago, and nothing will ever drag me back.
So, unfortunately for you, my situation was quite different. I didn't grow up in a Catholic household, didn't believe that I was born in sin, never really believed in hell or purgatory, and I never believed that priests had a special relationship to God. I loved the Eucharist, but came to realize that it wasn't worth the pain of all the rest of the guff.
So, dearest Macbee, in answer to your question, I was never really "Catholicized", so it was a lot easier for me to walk away. I don't think this little story will help you, but I really do share your pain. Getting out was the hardest thing I ever did, but now I look back in amazement that I ever got involved.
*For anyone who wants to believe that I fell out over contraception, just know that I have hever used any kind of birth control in my life. It was the sheer stupidity of Humanae Vitae that broke my spirit, and led to my eventual departure from the Church.
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- The Australian gives 'new' details of + Bill Morris' sacking. - desi, 2011-05-07, 05:20
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- Dedicated to the temple police....... - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 05:46
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- Brilliant - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 13:19
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- Dedicated to the temple police....... - Ynot, 2011-05-07, 13:52
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- Oh, Jonathan Swift, did you enjoy Stephen? - herbie, 2011-05-07, 23:57
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- Oh, Jonathan Swift, did you enjoy Stephen? - Francis, 2011-05-08, 09:24
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- Oh, Jonathan Swift, did you enjoy Stephen? - Francis, 2011-05-08, 09:24
- Dedicated to the temple police....... - kaythegardener, 2011-05-10, 20:06
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- Brilliant - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 13:19
- Michael McKenna's story is critically important in what is unfolding... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 05:56
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- Does anything actually sink in - CAN anything actually sink in? - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 06:17
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- CAN anything actually sink in? - kaythegardener, 2011-05-07, 06:51
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- Take heart... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 07:17
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- Take heart... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 13:05
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- A further thought about "living in the truth"... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 18:08
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- A further thought about "living in the truth"... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 18:08
- Take heart... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 13:05
- Take heart... - Francis, 2011-05-07, 09:27
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- Take heart... - Ynot, 2011-05-07, 10:16
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- Take heart... - Macbee, 2011-05-07, 14:48
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- Keep on truckin' - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 17:22
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- Keep on truckin' - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 17:22
- Take heart... - Marian, 2011-05-07, 17:45
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- Take heart... - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 08:23
- Does anything actually sink in - CAN anything actually sink in? - Macbee, 2011-05-07, 14:23
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- CAN anything actually sink in? - kaythegardener, 2011-05-07, 06:51
- Vatican market strategy - James, 2011-05-07, 06:53
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- Sensational story? THIS is where it all comes unstuck. - TonySee, 2011-05-07, 10:11
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- Sensational story? THIS is where it all comes unstuck. - Marian, 2011-05-07, 17:48
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- Sensational story? Doing a Berlusconi. - James, 2011-05-07, 22:31
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- Sensational story? Doing a Berlusconi. - desi, 2011-05-07, 22:37
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- Sensational story? Doing a Berlusconi. - desi, 2011-05-07, 22:37
- Sensational story? THIS is where it all comes unstuck. - Marian, 2011-05-07, 17:48
- Michael McKenna's story is critically important in what is unfolding... - desi, 2011-05-07, 11:54
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- Does anything actually sink in - CAN anything actually sink in? - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 06:17
- The Australian gives 'new' details of + Bill Morris' sacking. - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 11:08
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- and 'America' s take on the same subject - Helen, 2011-05-07, 11:21
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- and 'America' s take on the same subject - Helen, 2011-05-07, 11:21
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 12:35
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- " A cup of tea , a Bex and a good lie down "... - PaulW, 2011-05-07, 13:12
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 13:37
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Letter to the Editor, 2011-05-07, 14:04
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 15:09
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 15:09
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Letter to the Editor, 2011-05-07, 14:04
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - PaulW, 2011-05-07, 14:11
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Letter to the Editor, 2011-05-07, 14:18
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - desi, 2011-05-07, 15:00
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - desi, 2011-05-07, 15:00
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Letter to the Editor, 2011-05-07, 14:18
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Marian, 2011-05-07, 17:55
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- And yet another commentary - Helen, 2011-05-07, 17:59
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- A Bex and a good lie down... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-07, 18:17
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- A Bex and a good lie down... - gemstones, 2011-05-08, 17:18
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- A Bex and a good lie down... - Lou, 2011-05-08, 20:38
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- Voting with our feet .. - gemstones, 2011-05-08, 21:39
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- Voting with our feet .. - Macbee, 2011-05-08, 21:58
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- Voting with our feet .. - curlie que, 2011-05-08, 22:05
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- Voting with our feet .. - gemstones, 2011-05-08, 22:40
- Voting with our feet .. - James, 2011-05-08, 23:49
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- The vision of Catholicism that inspires me... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-09, 02:19
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- Voting with our feet .. - gemstones, 2011-05-09, 08:43
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- The vision of Catholicism that inspires me... - Brian Coyne, 2011-05-09, 02:19
- Voting with our feet .. - James, 2011-05-08, 23:49
- Voting with our feet .. - curlie que, 2011-05-08, 22:05
- Voting with our feet .. - Macbee, 2011-05-08, 21:58
- Voting with our feet .. - gemstones, 2011-05-08, 21:39
- A Bex and a good lie down... - gemstones, 2011-05-08, 17:18
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - PaulW, 2011-05-07, 18:37
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 18:57
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 18:57
- And yet another commentary - Helen, 2011-05-07, 17:59
- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - Jim B, 2011-05-07, 20:39
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- Editorial balance at The Australian: Mr Pearson gives the other side moral support... - James, 2011-05-07, 22:46
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- " A cup of tea , a Bex and a good lie down "... - PaulW, 2011-05-07, 13:12
- The Australian gives 'new' details of + Bill Morris' sacking. - Macbee, 2011-05-07, 13:26
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- The Australian gives 'new' details of + Bill Morris' sacking. - Edward, 2011-05-07, 13:58
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- The Australian gives 'new' details of + Bill Morris' sacking. - Edward, 2011-05-07, 13:58
- More support - PaulW, 2011-05-07, 18:22
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- More support - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 19:03
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- just wonderin' as usual ;-) - Roy, 2011-05-07, 20:12
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- More support - Macbee, 2011-05-07, 21:17
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- just wonderin' as usual ;-) - Roy, 2011-05-07, 20:12
- More support - georgeh, 2011-05-07, 19:03
- Dedicated to the temple police....... - Oh Yet We Trust, 2011-05-07, 05:46
















