Clive Hamilton's "The Freedom Paradox. Towards a Post Secular Ethics" (Sunday Forum)

by PeterR , Tuesday, February 03, 2009, 11:45 (1598 days ago) @ Bill Dowsley

Bill,

Up above you weren't quite sure what I meant by something I wrote.

As we moved through the discussion I had written about our needing to be free from X to be free for Y.

You finished off a post the other day writing: "Betty is calling; I must away." I interpreted that to mean that because of your love for Betty you were free from your selfishness to go on enjoying what you were doing here to be able to be free for her and what she needed you for at that time.

That's what I call Death and Resurrection as a quality of human life, or simply our living the Christ life.

You have expressed the same thought in the post to which I am responding:

"As for the younger generations, I see my job and inclination is to love those who have a call on me and to think gently of all others."

I have met very few people who have such an understanding as you have of the spirituality that is developed in a loving family. Life in such a family is a constant dying to self for the love of others. It is that Christ dimension of life we "carry in our bodies", as St Paul taught us, when we celebrate the Eucharist through Christ, with Christ and in Christ.

Like you, Bill, I enjoy and I am enriched by our friendship here. I am grateful for your friendship.

By the way, I have a walking stick, too. I explain to Betty that I need it to protect myself from the advances of all the young women who are attracted to me whenever I go outside the house.

Peter

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