Clive Hamilton's "The Freedom Paradox. Towards a Post Secular Ethics" (Sunday Forum)
James,
Thanks again for your review and for both beginning and continuing this discussion.
Detachment and rejection of passing fashions are manifestations of the oft repeated saying about freedom from X to be free for Y. It seems to me that it becomes a matter of internalised values, free will and all those old fashioned things we used to talk about. It's about Death and Resurrection - my "interpretation" or "bias" - and that man, Jesus of Nazareth.
When one considers those thoughts in the context of life in community for people committed to poverty, celibacy and obedience, one realises that somebody back there had a great insight - freedom from to be free for. Then somebody else buggered it all up by turning that vision into rules. I notice Rome is turning its mind to buggering up women's religious congregations.
I hope that those with another "manner of knowing" share their vision of moral life with me.
For example, what was the internalised value of so many Australians who gave generously to the "Tsunami Appeal" a few years ago?
Peter
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