To grow to maturity and away from dependency. (Y-not question the Sunday Readings)

by Oh Yet We Trust, Brisbane, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 11:11 (363 days ago) @ Roy
edited by Oh Yet We Trust, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 11:22

Roy, I can again so identify with what you're saying here. As for the 'educated' bit; It's not what you know but who you know in regards to being heard: You've got to have the whole prestige wardrobe to cover your nakedness.

I'd much rather listen to you any day (and do) in your nakedness than any of those playing dress-ups. You cut through the crap and get to the heart just like Jesus did.

Roy, hope you don't mind but your post about the delaying of investigation of the suicides upset me so much that I emailed Jane Lee to tell her your story a bit more as an example of what this inquiry means to many many people (I did so with the caveat that she not use any of what I wrote without my/your permission out of respect for you - just in case she wanted to).

Now, to the main theme of this thread: that Jesus HAD to leave us so that we could grow up ourselves and get out of an unhealthy unresolved dependency problem with Him, especially as a limited by space and time, 'earthly' being - I believe He himself said as much which is what the following means to me now:

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you".
John 16:7 New American Standard Bible (©1995)

But the church has yet again undone something Jesus did by telling those who came later that His presence as its mandate for us was then transferred to them thereby our unresolved dependency needs were transferred onto it/her instead of Jesus who wanted us to grow up: Anyone ever thought of it that way.

And after HE left (which he HAD to do) He sent His Spirit which we could either accept or reject freely as a partner on the journey, the Comforter, the Counselor, the Helper, the Advocate, yes, but which should never replace our own soul/psyche: We were never asked to sell our soul to the Spirit, nor to Jesus but to give ourselves freely in Love and service and find meaning and peace and a community in the process, to arrive at a place within where we are neither too dependent, nor too independent but fully inter-dependent, which to me is the ultimate healthy and authentic way of being human.

Roy, you are doing what most only talk about, but I hope and pray that you also find meaning and peace and a community in the process, rest in the process and rest does come with a sense of mature resolution and even acceptance but never at the expense of people and not at the expense of truth and justice. It's a fine line again, a tug-o-war in every sense of that term, between life and death in every sense of those words.

I believe many of us are in God but not even aware of it: And somehow, I think that's the best and safest (psychologically) way of being.

For what it's worth.

Stephen

Oh yet we trust that somehow good
Will be the final goal of ill