Direct communion with the heavenly Father (Main Forum)
The religion of Christ or true Christianity had no dogma, no creed, no system, and no theology. It was a religion of the heart, a religion without any ceremonial, without ritual, without priest-craft. It was not based upon any book, but upon the feelings of the heart, upon direct communion of the individual soul with the heavenly Father.
Sue, thanks for this reference. I'm afraid I have already left the institution because I don't believe in it any more, not because it has become so imperfect, but because the moment a community becomes a Community/Institution it has lost the plot. Belonging, building, obeying all take the place of the one thing necessary.
Yes, it happened even during the life-time of the apostles, but any farmer knows how you have to keep working on the soil to keep it productive. If you allow your focus to be set on building fences, gates, barns, show-pieces, you'll soon have an arid unproductive bit of dirt for all your efforts.
Actually I think we may be at a different stage of history compared to Francis of Assisi, and I can't take what he did as a standard, Kay. The points you made are always essential: go ahead and do it first, and get approval later. But I think it is time for a form of community different from the communities ruled over by bishops and ministered to by sacrificing priests.
Gotta go. tony
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